In the 1980s, Melvyn Bragg (an English cultural critic) had a tv programme called The South Bank Show.

They did a special on sculptor Anthony Caro, the last modernist, who was in the 60s attacked by Donald

Judd and Robert Morris for not being sufficiently abstract. In the interview, Bragg said to Caro many

people dont understand your work, to which Caro replied, well, do you understand your breakfast?.

–– Internationalistisk Ideale